More Strangeness!

On December 27, 2018, we were contacted by a lady who was interested in more information about one of our stranger articles - Strange, Strangers, Strangest. Unfortunately, we were not able to give her any new information, but she did write up her own experiences, and they are very strange also!

Many of the articles in our "Experiencers" section may seem absurd on the surface, but, for the most part, we do talk to the individuals and find them to be sincere and rational. They are usually just as puzzled as we are! We are always happy to receive confirmation in the form of experiences that are very similar to ones we have posted already.

David Pengilly
UFO*BC Director

My name is Jenn and I have a few comments and questions regarding the case with Roy W. titled Strange, Strangers, Strangest.

I'm going to be bold here and tell you right up that I'm fairly certain I have seen the same aircraft described in Graham Conway's writings about the case. When I read the article I was astonished to find that he described almost exactly what I remember seeing, I saw it about 10 years ago. It was also flying unusually low. I never called the airport on it.

I was wondering if you had any more information on the "aircraft" (sketches, paint scheme style, etc), and also any more information on the visitors.

It sounds insane but I think I may have seen something like Mr. Samuel and Mr. Graeme as well, but not in context with the aircraft as far as I know. This was earlier, about in early May, 2018.

Wishing you a happy new year.

UFO*BC Responds:

Hello Jenn. Thank you for reminding us about a very strange case from many years ago! It took me a while to locate this article on our website! I remember publishing it in our magazine - the UFO*BC Quarterly.

Unfortunately I was unable to locate any drawings or additional information. The three main investigators are also unavailable to question.

We would very much like to hear more details about your sighting of the plane and the mysterious "men in black".

Dave Pengilly

Witness Responds:

Hi David!

Thanks for your response and thank you for checking, I do appreciate it. I would be happy to tell you about my experiences, so here are a few details as follows. My cases certainly can't quite compete with Roy's but they are extremely strange nonetheless. I haven't told many people about them but when I read Roy's case and saw that someone else had seen nearly what I had, I felt a little less insane. I've had so many bizarre things happen to me I'd have to write a novel to get them all on paper, but I'll touch on some of the relevant ones.

I painstakingly 3D modeled the V-tail craft a while ago as closely as I remembered seeing it and I've attached pictures in case you'd like to see it. [see below]

Regarding the "men in black":
17-May-2018 ~4:00 PM

I was walking downstairs into the kitchen and heard a weird scratching sound outside the kitchen window. I looked out and saw two men wearing glasses with thick dark rims, exactly as described on Mr. Samuel and Mr. Graeme. They were wearing gray coats with brown shirts, no ties. Their hair was down below the shoulders and was a greenish dark blond/light brown, and their skin was golden olive.

They appeared to be investigating the ground by the window, and were carrying two large club-like objects with holes cut in them (think of lightening holes in a steel support). The objects were made of a mauve, plastic like material. I was about ready to confront them about what they were doing on my lawn when they noticed me and jumped back towards the privacy hedge.

I've seen these same two guys on numerous occasions but I've only had brief conversations outside with them a couple times. They never seemed to arrive in a car, either. I have also been experiencing strange, vivid dreams and "sleep paralysis" events since these encounters started. I'm not sure if they are Sam and Graeme but the descriptions match up aside from the hair, I think Roy would have mentioned long hair if he saw it. I will add that I don't mind these guys and am not bothered by the events as they've never done anything to threaten or harm me, but I am perplexed as to the hows, what's, and why's.

Oddly, I haven't flown much since that conversation and I'm selling my plane for unrelated reasons.

One of the times after the men visited the area, I noticed my Kylie (an aboriginal hunting boomerang) which is made of poly-carbonate resin (or something like that) was warped in the front as if heat was applied to it. I've attached photos of this as well. This Kylie has never spent time in the sun or around anything that could emit heat. I check this thing before and after every flight to ensure its straightness, and I certainly would have noticed a warp that big. I had just flown it and inspected it not long before they were around.

Regarding the large crafts:
Roughly February, 2007

This is the one closer to Roy's, I saw it at dusk and I'm fairly certain it was gray and silver with a black underbelly. It made the same noise he described, like a locomotive. The windows were bright as well, and there was a block hanging down from the nose - you will see what I mean in the painstakingly crafted 3D model photos I've attached. It had a camera-like thing on the front of the block. A friend of mine from Oregon was also witness to this aircraft and he claims to have seen several sizes and versions of the V-Tailed craft. He said he saw a logo on one of their tails once that looked like the outline of an airplane encircled in the style of an "@" symbol in white trim. He saw them in the early 2000s when he was living in Medford, Oregon. Apparently there was also a blue one. The one I saw had no color except for the marking on the tail (red like RW said). Another one had a high-wing, and was smaller. Either these are something the military is testing and is brushing off as balloons (yeah, right), or these are being seen through some kind of small holes in the temporal fabric.

The other more recent one was a broad daylight sighting while I was a passenger in a car. It had a straight tail (think normal airliner), but it was about 800' long, only one row of windows (some of the windows were blanked out like it was a cargo plane of some kind) and the wingspan had to be 900'. The tail was blue, kind of like how they paint prototype airliners, and there was a marking on the side: 80-327, or B0-327.

The marking was written in blue and was large. The key here is it was also "floating" along at a low altitude (400-400'?). I was in west Florida for this particular sighting (Also oddly in May, but in 2014). I travel frequently and I am a licensed pilot, and I know what planes are supposed to look like, and this one was just too big to be normal. It was HUGE. I looked away for a few seconds, looked back, and it was gone.

For years (even before I saw these aircraft) I've been having vivid, recurring dreams of being on board what could well be one of these craft: the cabin is huge with obviously multiple decks from my point of view, and there are consoles with computer screens and controls on them in the middle of the plane where the middle row of seats would normally be in a regular plane. The cabin is huge, 50' wide, and I'm usually over water (or a dark, featureless terrain) when I'm "in" these things.

There are a combination of types of people on these, mostly people with long, silver hair. They're not the "Nordic blonde" types, though. They're "grittier" and not at all "angelic" or "profoundly loving" as the Nordics are often described. These guys are more easy going and even normal and business like, and they just plug away at those computers. They all wear blue polo shirts and khaki pants.

I theorize that these aircraft may be on a different "time frequency" that these "holes" could allow someone to see through. Heck, UFO's (flying saucers?) may simply be resonators capable of breaching boundaries between realities. Of course, that's just my dinky theory that may or may not hold any water.

I apologize for the lengthy novella, let me know if you have any questions about anything.

Hope your 2019 is off to a great start,

Jenn K.

Warped KyliePlane 1Plane 2

Follow-Up - Feb 12, 2019:

I thought I'd do the courtesy of providing you with one more "photo" I rendered of one of the jets (attached). It gives a somewhat better representation of scale and how it looked in the air when I saw it, and what the lighting was like. I couldn't render the windows bright enough, but it does the job well enough.