2nd November 2000 (11:20 pm) - Roy W.
went outside to put the garbage in the bin. He suddenly
heard a very loud "locomotive" type sound overhead and
felt compelled to look up. To his astonishment he
perceived a thimble-shaped object with a flat bottom.
This craft appeared to have a bright top to it as well
as orange, red, and yellow lights around its perimeter.
The underneath of the craft had a huge bright white
light with a bluey-green neon type light in the centre.
This light felt warm to Roy, despite the cold night air.
During this period the neighbourís dogs were howling. He
could also feel the vibration within his body from this
"whirry", jet-like noise. The object proceeded to
demonstrate its aerobatic abilities as it moved up and
down, back and forth, all within a relatively small
area. All this was accomplished at high speed. Visually
the craft was the size of a dinner plate and at the
approximate height of incoming aircraft (2000í)?
November 2000 (4:40 pm) - Roy was outside and at the
back of the house when he suddenly heard a roar, "like a
rumbling locomotive". He looked up and was amazed to see
a HUGE aircraft just "floating" along. Its wingspan was
300 feet (?) and its length one city block! It had a
V-shaped tail, the front of the aircraft had two rows of
windows, the rear had three sets. The front set were
round, those at the rear oblong. The aircraft had no
visible markings, was black, gray, silver in colour,
with a red "Z" on the tail section. The lights from the
window were quartz-like, "brilliantly bright". This
aircraft (?) had eight engines, four on either side. The
extreme right engine had what seemed like smoke pouring
out of it. The enginesí appeared to be jet type. It was
flying extremely low, "I could have touched it" and
travelling from northeast to southwest. Higher in the
sky was another aircraft approaching Vancouver. The
first aircraft suddenly made a sharp bank to the right
witness commented that something like a "block" was
hanging down from the front, where the undercarriage
would be. The only other unusual thing was a smell of
sulphur in the air. During the 10 - 15 minute
observation there were at least 6 - 8 other witnesses in
the immediate neighborhood engaged in a variety of
activities. It would be interesting to know if they saw
anything at all? Roy phoned the airport but merely got
the run around, the bottom line being, "We know nothing"
following day the airport phoned back to say that they
could find nothing on radar to match his description.
(Surprise!) They then proceeded to ask more questions.
this event Roy has suffered from body itching, with a rash
on his hands and back. Also headaches and teary eyes. He
claims to see "sparks" out of the corner of his eyes. His
two cats frequently seem to chase something that he canít
see. He has difficulty sleeping and is very restless.
November 2000 (1:30 pm) - A General McDonald (?) phoned
from Canadian Air Defence in Goose Bay, Labrador, and
was on the phone 20 - 30 minutes asking questions about
this report that had been "passed on to him"(!?) He
asked Roy if it was O.K. to "put it on record". (tape
it?) He provided longitude and latitude co-ordinates and
stated that Roy lived under a flight path. He confirmed
that another aircraft was in the sky at the same time.
Roy agreed, but pointed out at a different location. He
then proceeded to ask about electrical interference with
the TV or computers? Had he (Roy) had any previous
sightings? Did he take any photos? Did he drink, use
drugs, or had he been institutionalised? Roy felt that
was a personal affront to his integrity, made a rude
remark at that point to the General and hung up. Within
two minutes he phoned back, saying, "You donít get rid
of me as easily as that". He made no apologies but just
proceeded to ask more questions, concluding with, "you
have a poor vocabulary". Once more Roy brought him to a
halt with a further offensive remark and again hung up.
This time he didnít call back. Intrigued by the nature
of the call, Roy dialed *69, only to be informed that
his system did not provide access to this number!
December 2000 (10:00 am) - Two men appeared at the door
of his residence. They produced wallets, one black, one
brown, containing photo I.D. that stated they were from
the department of Canadian Air Defence. One was a Mr.
Samuel, the other Mr. Graeme (spelling?) They asked to
come inside. Roy extended his hand, neither of the men
offered to shake hands, they simply ignored it. Moving
into the house took them through the kitchen area, but
they halted on seeing the microwave, as its position
required they pass it. After some questioning Roy
lowered a portion of a counter and they carefully sidled
through the extra space. Sitting down they produced a
small silver coloured tape recorder and inserted a small
disc that was between a nickel and a quarter in size,
replying to Roy's question that it would tape for eight
hours or more. On entering the house one of the men had
noticed an unusual walking stick in the hallway, to
which he remarked that the head of the sticks carving,
painted red, reminded him of the primates back home! The
two men were olive-skinned and appeared to have "Korean
eyes". Each wore Buddy Holly type glasses with thick
rims. They were wearing gray suits with black shirts,
one had a white tie, and the other was buttoned up to
the neck. The one with the tie had a clip that contained
a red "stone" that flickered. Mr. Samuel had a ruby ring
surrounded with diamonds. His watch was square but
without apparent hands, instead being encircled with
buttons that periodically illuminated from white to
green to mauve. The strap appeared to be molded into
skin and was a solid steel band. The belt on his pants
was of metallic strips with a square buckle. They both
had very large feet, Roy estimated size 14! Each carried
a brief case that was heavy and cold, apparently not
made of leather. When sitting down they never relaxed
into their chairs but retained a stiff back the whole
time. Not once during the whole time they were in the
house did they speak to each other. At one point Roy
offered them tea or coffee, but one of them said, "We
donít drink that stuff". Instead one accepted a glass of
water, to which the other stated, "your water contains a
lot of strange substances". At no point were "please" or
"thank you" offered. Royís two cats were extremely
agitated the whole time during the visitorsí stay.
Although lunch was put out for each of them, neither
would venture out of the living room into the kitchen.
The owners of the house who live on the floor above own
a dog that is customarily silent. During the time these
men were present the dog barked the whole time.
noticed that Roy was wearing a very unusual watch.
Touching his arm, Roy said the visitorís hand was cold
and clammy. They asked where he had found it and when,
plus additional questions as to the state of the field.
On being told a metal detector had been used in locating
it six inches below the ground and discovering the watch
was still going, they questioned what a metal detector
was! Amongst the questions asked was, "Who else have you
told about this sighting?" "UFO*BC" was the reply.
"Whatís that?" "Itís on the Web", Roy responded. "What
that?" "Itís the Internet". Which evoked from one of the
men, "Thatís communications". They also asked if Roy was
psychic and astonishingly broached the topic of another
daylight sighting that he had experienced in the 1960ís.
That particular incident he had also reported which
resulted in some surprising repercussions. But at no
time had he mentioned this event to them. During the
period that Roy was describing the multi-engined
"aircraft" that he had seen flying so low and so slowly,
Mr. Samuel was busy drawing a very accurate sketch. Roy
noted that the tail section was "not right" so he leant
forward to take the rather unusual silver pencil from
the artistís hands. The owner resisted this effort and
reached into his briefcase, which apart from some papers
was empty, and gave Roy a regular pencil. He opened the
briefcase by placing his four fingers of each hand on
top of the case and his two thumbs on the front, then
pressing down, at which point it sprang open. Roy was
unable to detect any key hole or tumbler locks; in fact
no seams were even visible. During the time that Mr.
Samuel was drawing the plane, Mr. Graeme was taking
notes in what appeared to be shorthand script, although
why he would do that if the interview was being taped is
difficult to determine.
they questioned him they looked into his eyes and seemed
to "pierce his brain" (Roy's description). They asked
him what type of cats he owned, he replied "Persian", to
which one visitor responded, "Oh, they breed those for
their skins". Their interrogation went on from 10 am
until 2:30 pm after which they left for about one hour,
presumably for lunch, returning later. When it came time
to leave Mr. Samuel looked at Mr. Graeme who said, "We
have to go now, we have another rendezvous". Having
taken notes and then tearing them up (?) Mr. Graeme was
careful to retrieve all the pieces and took them with
him! As they left they were again careful to avoid the
microwave oven as far as was possible.
in the yard they spent about half an hour scouring the
ground with a Geiger counter. At one point the searcher
called out to his companion, "Come over here and look at
this". Roy was told to stay where he was. When he asked
what they had found he was told, "Oh, itís nothing." Prior
to their departure he asked the two men what it was he had
seen. They replied that it was an experimental balloon and
the noise he had heard was the air escaping from it!
they rounded the corner of the house Roy went from the
kitchen to the bedroom which gave him a clear view of the
driveway and the road. Despite the very short period of
time that it took him to achieve this, the two men were
not in sight, nor was a car leaving, no car door could be
heard closing and no cars were visible either parked on
the roadside or driving away. So where did they go?
on all these strange events he discovered that on the
windowsill, only six inches behind where one visitor had
been sitting, was a Windex bottle, partially melted as if
heat had been applied to it. Alongside was a cassette tape
warped in a similar manner. Whilst four feet from the two
men was a cell phone that was already plugged in on
charge, (prior to the visitors arrival) this was now
beeping, indicating a low battery.
should be noted that two years ago we had another unusual
(dream?) visitation account provided to us where the
"experiencer" discovered the following day five cassette
tapes grossly distorted as if heat or microwave energy had
been applied to them. In this particular case these
cassettes were located only six feet from the two
December 2000 (12:00 noon) - Going outside the house Roy
was surprised to discover the same two men in the laneway
dressed in white coveralls. One was carrying a Geiger
counter, the other a 12 - 16 inch parabolic dish in his
hand, pointing to the sky, plus ear phones and a mike that
was attached. He was searching (?) the sky where Roy had
seen the aircraft. The wires all led into a black box at
his waist. At one point he had what looked like a camera,
although not video, aimed at a tree over which the
aircraft had been originally seen. During the time they
were together neither was seen speaking to the other. Nor
was any car seen in which they may have arrived.
to the fact that Roy was suffering from a severe migraine
type headache ever since his two visitors had departed he
called his doctor, who in turn paged the local "on call"
doctor. A short time later this gentleman arrived and
checked Roy out, pronouncing him OK despite the pain over
his heart he also complained of. On examining his eyes he
asked if he had been exposed to a welderís torch. Roy said
no. He also pointed out that Roy's face was sunburnt. Roy
told him that his eyes felt gritty and teary. He gave Roy
two 50-milligram Demerol tablets and told him that if
taken together they would "knock a cow out". He was also
provided with a prescription for 20 similar tablets. Even
though taken as prescribed Roy was still not able to sleep
properly, having weird dreams on two separate occasions
that included 7 Ė 8 foot creatures with four fingers with
suction cups on their ends. Roy described lying prone on a
table in a round room with a bright light above him and
then sensing being touched. Even now he states that he has
a constant feeling of being watched.
December 2000 (4:30 am) - Roy and Sylvia both wake up at
the same time to go to the bathroom. A rather unusual
event. Roy sees a ball of light about the size of a tennis
ball about six inches from his face. It is brilliantly
bright and a pale yellow. When it saw it had been noticed
(?) it zipped away at high speed into the far corner of
the bedroom to a pinhead size, leaving a light trace
behind it that was purple, blue and yellow. Twelve hours
later Roy casually mentioned to Sylvia that he saw
something strange early that morning. Noting a smile on
her face, she told him that when she awoke, she too saw it
about a foot away from her. No sound could be detected.
Roy stated that he was burning up and very thirsty. That
same afternoon a deep roar was heard by both of them,
rattling the windows. Nothing was to be seen in the sky.
December 2000 (4:00 pm) - A man appeared at Roy's door,
stating that he had come to see the watch. During the
past month Roy had a call from a person who claimed his
colleagues, (the two men in gray?) had told him about
having seen Roy's unusual watch.
person stated his name was Mr. Smith (how original!).
Roy asked him for I.D. and he produced a driverís
license with his photo on it (wearing dark glasses?)
giving an address in Albuquerque, New Mexico. He was
wearing a dark charcoal suit, white shirt and black tie.
He had a black fedora, "like gangsters wear" said Roy,
and very large feet, "size 13 or 14", like Roy's
previous visitors. His shoes were black and shiny, with
no signs of dirt on them at all. He was between 4 foot 8
inches and 5 feet tall. "Just a little guy, very skinny,
very pale-skinned with very long fingers, he was wearing
black wrap-around glasses with silver frames". Roy
extended his hand, but Mr. Smith ignored it. Entering
the house he commented upon the Chinese carved walking
stick in the hall saying how interesting it was. On
reaching the microwave oven he stopped and asked Roy to
turn it off. Roy unplugged it. Sitting down at the
kitchen table he produced a small silver tape recorder,
identical or similar to his past visitorsí machine,
stating that it would record for 80 HOURS or more!
Asking to see Roy's unusual watch he took a small
pick-like tool from the breast pocket of his suit and
quickly and expertly opened it up. He then attached a
jewelerís type magnifying glass to the glasses he wore
and proceeded to scrutinize its interior. He also again
asked where Roy had found the watch, requested that he
draw a diagram of the field and the exact location. Roy
obliged. He opened a black briefcase similar in
appearance to the previous visitors, only this one had
two gold closing clasps on the front. He removed some
paper, a silver pencil with a red top (like the earlier
visitor Mr. Samuel had) and a pen-like flash light that
emitted a mauve, pencil thin beam, which he scanned the
interior of the watch with. He took a small 2 x 3 inch
camera (digital?), which through the backside displayed
a purple screen, and with this he shot several pictures
of the watch which he relocated on his black briefcase.
During the whole of his visit he said very little and
replied to questions asked of him very briefly. Roy said
his speech was slurred. On being asked if he would like
tea or coffee he said he would like water instead,
drinking three glasses, right after each other, without
any accompanying pleases or thank yous. Nor, during the
whole time he was in the house, did he remove either his
glasses or his hat. Roy's two cats were agitated even
BEFORE Mr. Smithís arrival and were even more so when he
was in the kitchen. "Why do you have the cats?" he
asked, "because I like them", was the reply. "Oh." Like
his two predecessors, at no time did he smile or crack a
joke the whole time he was there. As Roy was providing
the requested water he saw his visitor slip the disc
that was inside the watch into his briefcase. This disc
contained a number and some unreadable script. Roy asked
in a very pointed fashion for it back. "Oh, sorry", and
it was handed over to him. "Do you want to part with
it?" he asked on returning his attention to the watch.
"If the Price is Right". "What do you mean?" "You know,
like the TV show." "I donít understand." "Like the TV
show in California." "Oh." "Have you had the watch
valued?" "Yes, at the Cloverdale swap meet, I was
offered $45.OO." "How much do you want for it?" "Well it
has sentimental value to me, and I donít really want to
part with it, but Iíll sell it for $500.00." "Iíll have
to check with my colleagues." (No surprise or haggling
over Roy's statement).
to look at Sylvia's computer, which was unplugged, he
expressed an interest in its capabilities. Roy
enumerated them to which Mr. Smith replied, "It has very
minimal power". Seeing some other wires unplugged he
expressed concern, stating that they created a dangerous
canít recall how the visit ended except that he again
extended his hand on departure and again it was ignored
along with no thanks for his hospitality or
co-operation. Roy went to the bedroom window right away
but could see no sign of his visitor or any car in the
vicinity! At that point he phoned me. It was 5:15 pm.
Telling me all the above details, plus the fact that his
strange watch showed a two hour (slow) time difference.
His cell phone was again dead and on replugging his
microwave in found to his astonishment that whereas
previously the clock on it wouldnít work, now it was
working and already set at the correct time! Sylvia's
hair blower nozzle, (a hard plastic) was found to be
melted, as was a ruler in a drawer close to where the
visitor had been sitting, this was bent into a slight S
curve. Again Roy had another severe headache and an
Conway, Steve Adair and Dwight Atkinson have all been
involved in this ongoing investigation.